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PostPosted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 2:36 pm 
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haha yep.. note that my build costing under 5g and n/a engine and his costs 25g plus and turbd.. but hey i dont mind losing to that .. not when his is tubed and pulling 800hp. All in good fun look foward to it always a good day at the nats!


so youve built a r100 ute for under 5 grand?

does that include panel/paint, engine,box,diff?
what about the cert for converting to a ute?

anyone that can build a complete car for 5 grand is the man!!!!


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Na engine.. brought ute of a friend who had to sell due to his rx2 needing attention fast. Got the ute off him for 4k rolling body panneled, and tray fibreglassed and handles shaved off tailgate. need to get engine mounts re-done and upgarde breaks and diff and thats it just slap on the paint and throw in the engine. i would say under 10g finished and she be a rocket of a ute... also looking foward to seeing the Jasco r100 ute running with the S4 in it.


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Own a R100 ute, have owned 323's wags and hatch,rx2,dx 13 b turb, ... have built alot of motor..oh forgot to mention the 95' s14 silvia i converted to rota and build a monster stage2 out of a 6 port blck..threw the middle plate away used a 20b one for size.. ported out the end plates into one port "massive stage" that was reving out 15,000rpms i dont have to prove nothing mate :) i was only putting my 2 cents in about rotamax and other shops. Yea they have some fast times but people doing it in the back yard are getting just as fast man thats all im saying..you dont need to go spend 6g on a short block to do fast times. Anywho you will see my ute at next years nationals then you can moan at me in person


how about u put ure money where ure mouth is and race me at next nationals??? mine built at a reputable rota workshop vs u???


even i wouldnt wanna race you oh yea my 9 inch is getitng made up now should be in within the next month its all legal now. its got1 fked clutc though :wall: :lol:


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hahahaha.... look whos talking your from Turangi! thats even smaller!!! all of you there are related lol... good fishing there tho


i agree, but fuk stick, dont put down rotamax , he dont rip off , just do a good job, havent you seen him haul? The cost to most people is not relevant cause i know hepz of his customers are proffessional dudes makin heaps , so they aint got time to fuk around, they want a cool ride so they take it to one of the best.


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hahahaha.... look whos talking your from Turangi! thats even smaller!!! all of you there are related lol... good fishing there tho


i agree, but fuk stick, dont put down rotamax , he dont rip off , just do a good job, havent you seen him haul? The cost to most people is not relevant cause i know hepz of his customers are proffessional dudes makin heaps , so they aint got time to fuk around, they want a cool ride so they take it to one of the best.


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hahahaha.... look whos talking your from Turangi! thats even smaller!!! all of you there are related lol... good fishing there tho


i agree, but fuk stick, dont put down rotamax , he dont rip off , just do a good job, havent you seen him haul? The cost to most people is not relevant cause i know hepz of his customers are proffessional dudes makin heaps , so they aint got time to fuk around, they want a cool ride so they take it to one of the best.


he dont rip off :lol: u either have to much money or havnt dealed with him before :lol:


no i aint got heaps of money, but if i did id spend it with him no questions asked, my mates have dealt with him and they say you always get more than you pay for with rotamax. As soon as my 3 is legal again an i can afford a new motor im going straight to your red neck, in bred town for a bridegy from rotamax.


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well if you cant build your own engines you shouldnt own a rota.


so what rotas do you own? or are they all your mates cars?


hes proably got no mates and no rotas


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Own a R100 ute, have owned 323's wags and hatch,rx2,dx 13 b turb, ... have built alot of motor..oh forgot to mention the 95' s14 silvia i converted to rota and build a monster stage2 out of a 6 port blck..threw the middle plate away used a 20b one for size.. ported out the end plates into one port "massive stage" that was reving out 15,000rpms i dont have to prove nothing mate :) i was only putting my 2 cents in about rotamax and other shops. Yea they have some fast times but people doing it in the back yard are getting just as fast man thats all im saying..you dont need to go spend 6g on a short block to do fast times. Anywho you will see my ute at next years nationals then you can moan at me in person


listen to this cock head hes never had nothing.Dising rotamax weres your 15000rpm stage bull shit any 1 on here had a mota rev to 15000 doubt it
and in a silvia what a tossa people like es rotas dont no wat there on about and should'nt talk shit got any pics of your cars cmon proove us wrong cmon WERE STILL WAITING ON PICS OF YOUR CARS


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hmmm well bet none of you guys herd how he ripped of Alex Curry on the 20b the built for him years ago then???? For all of you that know Alex you will now hes a good engine builder and a very helpful guy when you need to know anything. He however took his 20b in to Rotamax years ago since he had never built one before he wanted to take no risks of mucking it up so let them do it...took in 3 sets of carbon apex seals to be put in the motor.. Rotamax built it and weeks after it blew up so he pulled it aparts and found that theu put second hand steel seals in his engone and kept the carbons! So for all you guys out there that think rotamax is the best in NZ wityh the fastest ETA's .. hey they will rip you off and you will be none the wiser till your engine blows.. dont know if they still do that but hey i wouldnt trust any rotashop. And after all they are only in the 10's shit my mates in Rotorua are in the 10 second club and dont have the big bank accounts that those guys do. :)
Do u even know alex he left vegas 3 years ago i dont think so cause your talkin shit the mota rotamax built for him was a 13bpp for his hovercraft so get your fax right not a 20 b


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pay peanuts get monkeys :roll:

Everyone I know that has or has had a rotamax motor swear by them :mrgreen: and you may be able to build a motor on the cheap so what is it fast?

My old b bridgey (not rotamax) had over 40hours spent on porting alone if you work that on an hourly rate it all adds up


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Cory Aboots in the 10's hes from Rotorua.


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esrota wrote:
Sorry guys been away for a bit.. oh to ansa your qestions about who in rotorua is in the tens and after talking to mate in vegas in the 9's now is Cory Abbot Rotorua based mate back shed build. And as for the comment on engines not reving to 15,000rpms ive seen good bridgy's rev to 14,000! Yea engines i build cost alot less than rotashops mate andyea they are fast like i said should have the R100 ute at 2007 nationals. Anyways there ya go over arguing just wait till next year.. shit my other mate is building a 12a that will smoke most 13bs around but thats a while in the making yet. Cheers been fun arguing guys!


if your revving engines to 14-15000 rpm it sounds like you need some work done on the ports!! bring the revs down and make more power.

time to stop bullshitting and start putting up pics of YOUR rides.

oh yeah running a ten aint to hard either, hayden woodhead(1hypo3) 3rd time on a dragstrip, with the first motor he had ever built ran a 10.64. that was at summerdrags where he won his class. if ya build it right and tune it good it will go fast.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 12:51 pm 
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Id have to agree with what everyone else is saying sure you can pick up a haynes manuel but that doesnt tell you a lot thats for a factory rebuild and doesnt include race clearancing etc and clearancing in my experiances takes alot longer then actually assembling the engine thats the easy part and there is alot of power to be gained from correct clearances also if your revving a motor to 15 thousand rpm id aggree you should start looking at your port timing thats all ive got to say.


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esrota wrote:
Sorry guys been away for a bit.. oh to ansa your qestions about who in rotorua is in the tens and after talking to mate in vegas in the 9's now is Cory Abbot Rotorua based mate back shed build. And as for the comment on engines not reving to 15,000rpms ive seen good bridgy's rev to 14,000! Yea engines i build cost alot less than rotashops mate andyea they are fast like i said should have the R100 ute at 2007 nationals. Anyways there ya go over arguing just wait till next year.. shit my other mate is building a 12a that will smoke most 13bs around but thats a while in the making yet. Cheers been fun arguing guys!


does cory know that youre a banjo playing inbred from tokoroa or are you just name dropping couse your bumming yourself right out..........


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hey,

me and jeremy have known dean for a while now, and ive never heard a bad thing about him before, im not sure i would trust anyone else in the country to build me a car for that matter. fast reliable cars cost a lot of money, i dont see dean rolling round in a brand new ss commy and living in a million dollar house so he cant be ripping too many people off can he!!! and esrota is the only one that seems to have the pip with him.

weve also known alex curry for a very long time (my next door neighbour for over 10 years) he showed jeremy how to build his very first engine. alex ditched the rotary idea in the hovercraft and went to a v6 nearly 10 years ago so i highly doubt dean ever built an engine for that. the problems with the hovercraft engine were because the rotors he had slotted by a rotorua engineer were done wrong thus creating headaches for alex for a couple of years. to my knowledge it never had a 20b or a 13bpp in it. only a 13b bridgeport that alex built himself.

as far as i know, i dont know you (esrota) from a bar of soap, and please do not use my name or my brothers in any form of argument , especially when you are slagging someone i consider a friend.
i highly doubt we will ever see anything good come from your backyard esrota!! if your revving your motors to 15000rpm you better bring a couple spare blocks to the nats if you wanna go thhe rounds.

also im quite keen to know how your saw 15000rpm on a motor as ive never seen a automotive type rev counter made for more than 13000. just curiuos!!!

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also im quite keen to know how your saw 15000rpm on a motor as ive never seen a automotive type rev counter made for more than 13000. just curiuos!!!





ha ha ha, yer i was thinking the same thing :wink:


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he was counting the revs himself no need for a gauge.


Wheres the "DOU BROS" at.


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he was counting the revs himself no need for a gauge.


Haha :lol: Ive got a rotamax engine and must say it wasn't tht expensive for 40hours work and alot of new parts he doesn't skimp on anything and builds a motor for the one purpose of hauling arse. Best bridge ports iv'e ever seen and this is all reflected in the times his car can pull :evil:


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Hey guys,
First of all digital rev guage..and secondly never said they didnt have the times to prove thier egines were good.. just stated that i dont hold any rota shops in high regard.. lik i said easy to fluke a mean rota.. shit man put togeter proper they are indistructable looked after. And personally i havent had and engine from rotamax.. i prefer to do my own work more pleasing to know you did it.. ive seen a few of the mates rotamax engines and yea they are all good.. go hard.. but for the price damn..you would want them too....ive herd alot of good things about them and also a few negatives.. but hey guess you get that being a shop and all. I just like to know whats going into my engine.. guy that built engines for racing int he 20 years he did rebuilds for customers he only even found one block that had what the customer said it had in it...all to their own..if you have the coin and not the time go hard i say its faster and you get a warrenty on it.appologies to those offended by my point of view ... as for the alex curry thing all i was told was that it was a 20b and was built by rotamax.


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First of all digital rev guage..and secondly never said they didnt have the times to prove thier egines were good.. just stated that i dont hold any rota shops in high regard.. lik i said easy to fluke a mean rota.. shit man put togeter proper they are indistructable looked after. And personally i havent had and engine from rotamax.. i prefer to do my own work more pleasing to know you did it.. ive seen a few of the mates rotamax engines and yea they are all good.. go hard.. but for the price damn..you would want them too....ive herd alot of good things about them and also a few negatives.. but hey guess you get that being a shop and all. I just like to know whats going into my engine.. guy that built engines for racing int he 20 years he did rebuilds for customers he only even found one block that had what the customer said it had in it...all to their own..if you have the coin and not the time go hard i say its faster and you get a warrenty on it.appologies to those offended by my point of view ... as for the alex curry thing all i was told was that it was a 20b and was built by rotamax.


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Haha good call!! Is rotmax still running a shop he owes me a tune and i havnt been in the north for almost 2years now?


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Yea hes set up in Tokoroa now.


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Haha good call!! Is rotmax still running a shop he owes me a tune and i havnt been in the north for almost 2years now?


yea its a small yellow building down sum bak street off a round about i took my motor up there a couple of weeks ago to get rebuilt really pissed me off wen u get sum back yard performance guy to do ur water seals then u put it back in ur car and it fucks out again :( thort i beter take it to a pro :D


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I've filled out their detailed quote form on their website a couple times 'cause I need some work done but have heard nothing back so far, disappointing seeing as i've heard only good stuff about their work...


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ported out the end plates into one port "massive stage" that was reving out 15,000rpms :)


Thats quite impressive, ive never heard of any rotor that could rev that high...how would u measure that? with a Motorcycle tacho?

just curious :wink:


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na just with digital rev meter :) a good bridgey can rev out to 14. But if you want a warranty and a reliable engine go to rotamax or another rotary specialist. Easy as that. I build my own for my own personal satisfaction.


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I've filled out their detailed quote form on their website a couple times 'cause I need some work done but have heard nothing back so far, disappointing seeing as i've heard only good stuff about their work...


Yea Dean will never get bak to u on dat if u want anything done the best thing to do is go see da man hes not that bad to deal wif and will give u a straight up answer but he doesnt like people wasting his time or people who dont know wat they want


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rotamax costs a bit more n with gud reason just look at the times down the strips dean hardgrave(rotamax) is always up there. his bridgeports are quicker than alot off other work shops pp the guy knows what hes doin and that why u pay for it money wel spent


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Just got my new engine bak from dean have to say he is the man the portings alone r huge top work everything brand spanken new cost a little tho round 6 and a half with a new flywheel but cant wait to take it down the strip :D and see what times ill do


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fuck i built my 13b stage 2 done my own porting and shit fuck paying 6 and a half my rx2 does 13 sec flat thats wit a standed diff if any thing id get the porting done by rotamax and buy all the seals from mazda or phils rotaries 4 a grand and build it my self they only go 2gether 1 way shops cant do any thing diffrent and if u own a rota u should now how 2 do this that goes 4 timing aswell mazport showed me how 2 do that peace of piss i meen what u gnna do if ya spark plug leads come off if ya dont know that shit ya probley dont no were trailing and leading goes ether :321: :wall:


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In saying what uve just said porting isnt the only thing that makes a motor go hard correct clearances theres so much more you can do than just porting and a seal kit.


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well in saying what u said about clerances if all ya seal r new theres no prevous wear and tear on the seals so ya clearences will b fine cose the seals r new jst make sure u tork the through bolts up 2 32 on the tork rench and dont crush the rolla bearings in the frnt with the spacer and tork the frnt pully up 2 80


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oh yea so brand new seals are clearanced are they? what about checking apex grooves, side seal grooves etc etc theres bearing mods to be done etc and not to forget one of the most important things end float. Theres a whole lot of power to be made in clearancing things mate.


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well in saying what u said about clerances if all ya seal r new theres no prevous wear and tear on the seals so ya clearences will b fine cose the seals r new jst make sure u tork the through bolts up 2 32 on the tork rench and dont crush the rolla bearings in the frnt with the spacer and tork the frnt pully up 2 80


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well precesion enginering in aucks does 3 window bearing who do u think does mazports 3 window bearings rota balanceing etc same 4 street systems automotive, r.e.s etc precesion enginernig does it all as 4 apex wear in plates just get them skimmed only costs $100 were i get it done 4 all 3 plates but if they new skool plates they have 2 b hardend again and no there anit much more 2 do than what i said in the above message and well if u dont crush the frnt rolla bearing in the front wit the spacer ur float will b mint i built shit loads of motors and havent had any people complain or come back sayin there motors have fucked out


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If Jesus drove a rota he would get Dean to build it. But it would be too fast for him to handle and it would just sit in his garage because he would be too scared to drive it so he would occasionally go sit in it and have a bong and when his friends came over he would just start it up, and they would be like hey Jesus lets take it for a drive, but he would make some excuse like the diff was making noises. But everyone would know he was just scared of the power Dean could pull from a rotary.


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 Post subject: Re: Rotamax
PostPosted: Sun May 16, 2010 10:02 pm 
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Nada zip zero

Joined: Wed Feb 17, 2010 10:29 pm
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Location: Tok Town
Deans the man no doubt about it, bit pricey but well worth it. And hes got a dyno now.

Built my m8s stage motor cost 11k but made 450hp atw 19psi with little garrett to4e, and he just gives it death all day everyday

TOK TOWN ROTAS ON

DEANS NUMBER IS 0274784445


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